Post by the Scribe on Jul 9, 2021 8:16:31 GMT
In 2021 the SNOWFLAKES are still with us and they are worse than ever. Trumpflakes. Are we seeing a pattern here with CONservatism? The difference is today Trump, who studied Hitler knew how to jack his base around to suit his own narcissism.
Feb 14, 2013 12:51:04 GMT -5 the Scribe said:
Did Linda's children grow up to become Republicans? She waited until the end of the show to dedicate one encore song to Michael Moore and look what happened, supposedly.
Linda Ronstadt Censured for Anti-Bush Remarks
By Austin Cline, About.com GuideJuly 21, 2004
More and more we find that when someone is critical of President Bush, they become the targets of a nasty backlash designed to help silence anyone else uppity enough to voice their opinions. Whoopi Goldberg was dropped from Slimfast ads, now Linda Ronstadt has been escorted out of a casino. Jerry Fink writes for the Las Vegas Sun
[Aladdin President Bill] Timmins, who was among the almost 5,000 fans in the audience at the Aladdin Theatre for the Performing Arts, had Ronstadt escorted to her tour bus and her belongings from her hotel room sent to her. Timmins also sent word to Ronstadt that she was no longer welcome at the property for future performances...
Timmins told Las Vegas Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist. Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."
Timmins said she was wrong to bring her politics to the stage. "Our first and only priority is the enjoyment of our customers," he said. "I made the decision to ask Miss Ronstadt to leave the hotel. A situation like that can easily turn ugly and I didn't want anything more to come out of it. There were a lot of angry people there after she started talking.
Funny, I don’t seem to remember incidents like this whenever Clinton was criticized. When such things happen, reactions like Timmins are common: singers (or whoever) aren’t supposed to try to communicate political messages, they are just supposed to sing and entertain people. But since when is any art — especially singing and songwriting — supposed to be apolitical?
Reactions among some fans to Ronstadt’s comments were very negative:
Some of them reportedly defaced posters of her in the lobby, writing comments and tossing drinks on her pictures.
I don’t see any indication that hotel security did anything about the people who were committing vandalism because they didn’t like Ronstadt’s opinions, they just didn’t something about Ronstadt for voicing an opinion that some people didn’t like. Makes sense, right?
One might disagree with the manner or timing that Ronstadt used, but to argue that she shouldn’t communicate anything political during her performance is simply asinine. It betrays a fundamental lack of understanding about art generally and music in particular.
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Conservatives Speak Out on Linda Ronstadt
By Austin Cline, About.com GuideJuly 22, 2004
I wrote yesterday about Linda Ronstadt being escorted out of the Aladdin casino in Las Vegas, without even being allowed to get her things from her room, because she dedicated a song to Michael Moore and made some negative comments about President Bush. Unfortunately, reactions from the far-right have been less than mature. Here are some posts I found on Ronstadt’s official site:
Linda Ronstadt's publicity stunt on Saturday night is nothing short of anti-American treason. She should be booed off stage for every concert she plays from now on.
#### YELLOW #### ANTIAMERICAN #### SHOOT HER!!
I have to say that I really am going to enjoy the backlash on your career and others who mock what this country stands for and our forefathers who lost life and limb to protect it. ... I do know the truth and that truth is that you are a socialist and completely out of touch with the american people because of your financial and emotional status and are anti american. May God Bless our country and overcome communists like you. Hope your sales fall thru the toilet.
The Michael Moores of this world will lead us to the needless deaths, imprisonment and torture of thousands under the continued dictatorial regimes like Saddam. Those same regimes support worldwide terrorists activity. I can not support someone who lends aid and support to him.
Well, that’s quite a set of comments, isn’t it? Three specifically state that Linda Ronstadt is “anti-American” because she made “anit-Bush” comments. Isn’t it interesting how some people equate “America” as a nation or ideal with “George W. Bush,” a specific person who is holding the office of President for a specific and limited amount of time? I don’t think that they are upset over criticism of “The President,” the office but of “George W. Bush,” the person.
One might legitimately and fairly disagree with Ronstadt’s comments, but this sort of “cult of personality” is incompatible with the traditions of American politics. By this I mean that no office in the government should be so closely linked with an individual office holder that criticism of that person are treated as criticisms of the office or of the government generally. It is ironic that the one critic attacks Ronstadt for being a socialist and “communist” (I can’t figure out where that comes from, except to speculate that this is another person who can’t come up with any label for anti-American individuals other than “socialist” and “communist”) when such cults of personality were rather common in the old communist nations.
The “best” (if I may use that term) comments come from someone claiming to be a marine who spent 14 months in Afghanistan and another 8 in Iraq where he is due to return shortly:
I can't believe I wasted all that money and time to you! Your Las Vegas show was absolutely appalling and infuriating. Why couldn't you just keep your pie hole shut when your not singing? Nobody was there to be subjected to your bull crap political musings and anti-american speak! I wish we would have torn the place down, but thank GOD the casino through your butt out on the street, if only they bought you a one way ticket to Iran where you belong.
Every one of your CDs and LPs just went into the trash chute. You are a terrorist loving, socialists who needs to get your butt over France where you can renounce your United States citizenship and live your pin headed, anti-American, Pro-Communist life agenda out with other clueless pigs like yourself. ... Treasonistic in Wartime. Stupefying anytime. Your talent can no longer hide your mental midgetry and HATE-America First values & morality. You are the new poster child for resending woman's right to vote, for millennia woman were not allowed to participate in political intellectual thought through out the world in all cultures. You, your thoughts, your mouth and your utterances are exactly why that was so. Another stupid chick bites the dust.
Not only is Linda Ronstadt “treasonistic,” but she’s also a “poster child” for why women shouldn’t be allowed to vote? I wonder what the women in this marine’s life would say to that — I doubt we’ll ever find out, though, because I doubt that he would ever have the courage to take public responsibility for his words and beliefs. It’s all too common that those who would deprive others of liberty prefer to work from the shadows and in anonymity.
It’s interesting, though, that this marine lambasts Ronstadt for the poor intellectual quality of her ideas but, in doing so, fails to display anything that might be considered intellectually sophisticated — or intellectually mediocre, for that matter. He offers not a single coherent argument or a even the faintest hint of logical rigor in his ideas. Instead, it’s just a vicious screed attacking everything and anything that differs from his own point of view. It’s difficult to see how and why such a person should be taken the least little bit seriously; instead, his writing seems more appropriate for ridicule and derision.
He also wrote:
My spelling is impeccable. Your vision is not. Liberal chicks like you are THE most hateful people on Earth right now. Minds like yours will have the children of the future enslaved in Islamic fascism. Minds like mine have freed MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of enslaved people the world over from evil people who think and believe just like you do during the last century. Talk about compassion and consideration! Minds like yours fought every move making that happen out of timid, fear-based, insecurity and a complete lack of a moral compass as well as being horribly flawed politically. YOU and small minds like YOURS and thoughts like YOURS have always been WRONG, WEEK, DANGEROUS AND THE ASH HEAP OF HISTORY PROVES IT AGAIN AND AGAIN!
Well, “liberal chicks” must be pretty hateful if they can out-do this marine when it comes to nasty attitudes.
I hope your children grow up to be Republicans. They probably will out of survival, because even the dumbest of creatures instinctively know how to run from danger. You, sweetie, are definitely dangerous to Freedom and America. You, LINDA and your kind are THE ENEMIES WITHIN!
This marine thinks that women shouldn’t be able to vote and that Islam is evil, but he’s not the one who is dangerous to freedom? What causes a person to become an “enemy within” — disagreement with President Bush?
Our marine has a lot to say about Islam, too:
Islam hates all who are not born of the faith or who will not convert. It is a fundamental core of Islam to defeat or convert all the world. It is a cornerstone of Islam that the unconverted souls are evil and it is ones duty to God to kill all of them. ... Islam is at war with the world and has been for the past thousand years. It has never stopped, we only held it at bay for a couple of centuries or so thinking it was over.
The crusades were not Christians warring and spreading Christianity to the Muslim world. The Crusades were defending Europe and Christianity itself from the onslaught of hundreds of years of warring Islam which had spread like a cancer through the Middle East, Africa and Asia with astonishing speed and complete and total dominance. A conquering Islam was knocking on Europe's door, and it was the great Kings and warriors of Spain who answered and pushed back. Western technology and fearless leadership was supreme, even back then, against the barbaric and unchanged precepts of Islam. ... Islam is an idea, a warped religion. ... It is the most dangerous of all human evils, it is sickened, unfettered thought and devotion to a religiously warped and radical concept of salvation and proclamation.
It’s depressing to think that there are American soldiers and marines in the Middle East, representing America, who have such warped, distorted, ignorant, and hateful views such as this. The author is boasts proudly about how he has helped people in the region, but at the same time he viciously attacks their religion. If their religion really so evil, at war with the West, and seeking to kill all nonbelievers, why would he seek to save them from dictators? I can’t imagine how can he believe all that and not go insane from the self-contradictions.
As much as he hates Islam, I think he hates liberalism even more:
I can understand why liberals would side with this, Liberalism being so close to the way they operate and think. ... All you atheist will be killed. All you homosexuals will be beheaded. All you woman will be veiled, silenced and become mere property to the men to do with as they wish. All you drug users will loose first your hand, then your arm and if you still use, finally your head. All you drinkers will loose your fingers, then your hand, then your arms. All you non believers will be killed. All you FREE SPEACH zealots will be silenced and tortured, with parts of your body cut off every time you speak out like you do here and you will be imprisoned. ... This is what you God Damn liberals want to defend and embrace in your complete stupidity and total selfishness.
Aren’t we lucky that we are protected from such things like this marine? If people like he were in charge, we wouldn’t have to worry about the status of nonbelievers, the ability of women to vote, or having our free speech silenced. He genuinely cares about liberty and American democratic values so our future is safe in his hands. Right?
Oh, wait, this is the same person who said that Linda Ronstadt is the “the new poster child for resending woman's right to vote,” so maybe he isn’t the best person to trust with our liberty...
In my mind I don't fight for people like you liberals. I fight for real Americans and the best President the United States could possible have at this place in the timeline of human history. And most of all, I fight for the grateful MILLIONS of Iraqi, Afghanistan and Kuwaiti people who now live in freedom for the first time in the history of these countries. The vast majority of them LOVE Americans and the American Soldiers.
Well, it seems as though it was correct of me to rethink things above — he certainly doesn’t sound like he is interested in fighting for people who disagree with him, and that suggests that he isn’t fighting for people’s right to disagree with him. Strange that he things we should be grateful for him fighting authoritarian Islamists when he appears to be no less authoritarian in his own politics and attitudes. Aside from the fact that no one has been dumb enough to give him a chance to put his ideas into effect, what’s the difference between him and the people he fights?
He says that he fights for the millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait... who follow a religion that is the “most dangerous of all human evils.” The vast majority of people there “LOVE Americans and the American soldiers,” even as they believe that their “duty to God“ is to kill the unconverted and who see themselves as “at war with the world.”
Is your head spinning, too?
The TERRORISTS and SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS and BRUTAL DICTATORS ALL want KERRY to win. YOU Liberals keep great company. ... Imagine, Osama Bin Laden and YOU liberals have the same ideals and wishes. SCARY STUPID LIBERALS.
I’m guessing that this marine has spent a lot of quality time with Osama bin Laden personally, discussing things like politics and international diplomacy, thus providing him with the knowledge and insight necessary to know exactly what it is that bin Laden and his followers want in terms of American foreign policy.
I myself haven’t had the chance to spend that much time learning from Islamic extremists like Osama bin Laden and thus don’t have the incredible expertise that this marine does, so I guess it would be wise not to question or challenge his judgment here. Right?
Islam has declared war on the US for over twenty years during both parties control of the US government. ONLY BUSH has had the balls and the VISION to look at our destruction and attackers in the face and say NOT HERE NOT NOW and take the fight to the enemy. All that you liberals have ever done is have tea and champaign with the enemies of the Free World. Giving them comfort, money, secrets, awards and compassion all the while they spit in your face time and time again.
Some of the nations this Marine criticizes includes Saudi Arabia and Pakistan — nations that President Bush has voiced strong support for. I won’t argue that there isn’t quite a lot wrong with how those governments have supported and encouraged Islamic extremism, but it’s instructive that this author can’t muster any outrage about how his favorite president has treated them and supported them himself.
If this represents anything close to the quality of thinking and reasoning common to those who walked out of Linda Ronstadt’s concert in Las Vegas and those who are claiming to no longer be fans, I think that I can say with some confidence that they are fans she can do without. Let’s be honest here, what kind of artist or entertainer would wish to be even remotely associated with people like those quoted above?
If thinking and believing like this are what is required in order to be considered a “patriotic American,” then I would be proud to accept the labels of “unpatriotic” and “anti-American.” These people don’t look our sound anything like the sort of America I would want to live in or be happy about.
Feb 14, 2013 14:18:10 GMT -5 @robert Axel said:
I would like to have hoped we as a country have matured a bit since then, but....
Feb 14, 2013 12:51:04 GMT -5 the Scribe said:
Did Linda's children grow up to become Republicans? She waited until the end of the show to dedicate one encore song to Michael Moore and look what happened, supposedly.
Linda Ronstadt Censured for Anti-Bush Remarks
By Austin Cline, About.com GuideJuly 21, 2004
More and more we find that when someone is critical of President Bush, they become the targets of a nasty backlash designed to help silence anyone else uppity enough to voice their opinions. Whoopi Goldberg was dropped from Slimfast ads, now Linda Ronstadt has been escorted out of a casino. Jerry Fink writes for the Las Vegas Sun
[Aladdin President Bill] Timmins, who was among the almost 5,000 fans in the audience at the Aladdin Theatre for the Performing Arts, had Ronstadt escorted to her tour bus and her belongings from her hotel room sent to her. Timmins also sent word to Ronstadt that she was no longer welcome at the property for future performances...
Timmins told Las Vegas Sun gossip columnist Timothy McDarrah: "We live in a city where people come from all over the world to be entertained. We hired Ms. Ronstadt as an entertainer, not as a political activist. Whether you are politically on the left or on the right is not the point. She went up in front of the stage and just let it out. This was not the correct forum for that."
Timmins said she was wrong to bring her politics to the stage. "Our first and only priority is the enjoyment of our customers," he said. "I made the decision to ask Miss Ronstadt to leave the hotel. A situation like that can easily turn ugly and I didn't want anything more to come out of it. There were a lot of angry people there after she started talking.
Funny, I don’t seem to remember incidents like this whenever Clinton was criticized. When such things happen, reactions like Timmins are common: singers (or whoever) aren’t supposed to try to communicate political messages, they are just supposed to sing and entertain people. But since when is any art — especially singing and songwriting — supposed to be apolitical?
Reactions among some fans to Ronstadt’s comments were very negative:
Some of them reportedly defaced posters of her in the lobby, writing comments and tossing drinks on her pictures.
I don’t see any indication that hotel security did anything about the people who were committing vandalism because they didn’t like Ronstadt’s opinions, they just didn’t something about Ronstadt for voicing an opinion that some people didn’t like. Makes sense, right?
One might disagree with the manner or timing that Ronstadt used, but to argue that she shouldn’t communicate anything political during her performance is simply asinine. It betrays a fundamental lack of understanding about art generally and music in particular.
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Conservatives Speak Out on Linda Ronstadt
By Austin Cline, About.com GuideJuly 22, 2004
I wrote yesterday about Linda Ronstadt being escorted out of the Aladdin casino in Las Vegas, without even being allowed to get her things from her room, because she dedicated a song to Michael Moore and made some negative comments about President Bush. Unfortunately, reactions from the far-right have been less than mature. Here are some posts I found on Ronstadt’s official site:
Linda Ronstadt's publicity stunt on Saturday night is nothing short of anti-American treason. She should be booed off stage for every concert she plays from now on.
#### YELLOW #### ANTIAMERICAN #### SHOOT HER!!
I have to say that I really am going to enjoy the backlash on your career and others who mock what this country stands for and our forefathers who lost life and limb to protect it. ... I do know the truth and that truth is that you are a socialist and completely out of touch with the american people because of your financial and emotional status and are anti american. May God Bless our country and overcome communists like you. Hope your sales fall thru the toilet.
The Michael Moores of this world will lead us to the needless deaths, imprisonment and torture of thousands under the continued dictatorial regimes like Saddam. Those same regimes support worldwide terrorists activity. I can not support someone who lends aid and support to him.
Well, that’s quite a set of comments, isn’t it? Three specifically state that Linda Ronstadt is “anti-American” because she made “anit-Bush” comments. Isn’t it interesting how some people equate “America” as a nation or ideal with “George W. Bush,” a specific person who is holding the office of President for a specific and limited amount of time? I don’t think that they are upset over criticism of “The President,” the office but of “George W. Bush,” the person.
One might legitimately and fairly disagree with Ronstadt’s comments, but this sort of “cult of personality” is incompatible with the traditions of American politics. By this I mean that no office in the government should be so closely linked with an individual office holder that criticism of that person are treated as criticisms of the office or of the government generally. It is ironic that the one critic attacks Ronstadt for being a socialist and “communist” (I can’t figure out where that comes from, except to speculate that this is another person who can’t come up with any label for anti-American individuals other than “socialist” and “communist”) when such cults of personality were rather common in the old communist nations.
The “best” (if I may use that term) comments come from someone claiming to be a marine who spent 14 months in Afghanistan and another 8 in Iraq where he is due to return shortly:
I can't believe I wasted all that money and time to you! Your Las Vegas show was absolutely appalling and infuriating. Why couldn't you just keep your pie hole shut when your not singing? Nobody was there to be subjected to your bull crap political musings and anti-american speak! I wish we would have torn the place down, but thank GOD the casino through your butt out on the street, if only they bought you a one way ticket to Iran where you belong.
Every one of your CDs and LPs just went into the trash chute. You are a terrorist loving, socialists who needs to get your butt over France where you can renounce your United States citizenship and live your pin headed, anti-American, Pro-Communist life agenda out with other clueless pigs like yourself. ... Treasonistic in Wartime. Stupefying anytime. Your talent can no longer hide your mental midgetry and HATE-America First values & morality. You are the new poster child for resending woman's right to vote, for millennia woman were not allowed to participate in political intellectual thought through out the world in all cultures. You, your thoughts, your mouth and your utterances are exactly why that was so. Another stupid chick bites the dust.
Not only is Linda Ronstadt “treasonistic,” but she’s also a “poster child” for why women shouldn’t be allowed to vote? I wonder what the women in this marine’s life would say to that — I doubt we’ll ever find out, though, because I doubt that he would ever have the courage to take public responsibility for his words and beliefs. It’s all too common that those who would deprive others of liberty prefer to work from the shadows and in anonymity.
It’s interesting, though, that this marine lambasts Ronstadt for the poor intellectual quality of her ideas but, in doing so, fails to display anything that might be considered intellectually sophisticated — or intellectually mediocre, for that matter. He offers not a single coherent argument or a even the faintest hint of logical rigor in his ideas. Instead, it’s just a vicious screed attacking everything and anything that differs from his own point of view. It’s difficult to see how and why such a person should be taken the least little bit seriously; instead, his writing seems more appropriate for ridicule and derision.
He also wrote:
My spelling is impeccable. Your vision is not. Liberal chicks like you are THE most hateful people on Earth right now. Minds like yours will have the children of the future enslaved in Islamic fascism. Minds like mine have freed MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of enslaved people the world over from evil people who think and believe just like you do during the last century. Talk about compassion and consideration! Minds like yours fought every move making that happen out of timid, fear-based, insecurity and a complete lack of a moral compass as well as being horribly flawed politically. YOU and small minds like YOURS and thoughts like YOURS have always been WRONG, WEEK, DANGEROUS AND THE ASH HEAP OF HISTORY PROVES IT AGAIN AND AGAIN!
Well, “liberal chicks” must be pretty hateful if they can out-do this marine when it comes to nasty attitudes.
I hope your children grow up to be Republicans. They probably will out of survival, because even the dumbest of creatures instinctively know how to run from danger. You, sweetie, are definitely dangerous to Freedom and America. You, LINDA and your kind are THE ENEMIES WITHIN!
This marine thinks that women shouldn’t be able to vote and that Islam is evil, but he’s not the one who is dangerous to freedom? What causes a person to become an “enemy within” — disagreement with President Bush?
Our marine has a lot to say about Islam, too:
Islam hates all who are not born of the faith or who will not convert. It is a fundamental core of Islam to defeat or convert all the world. It is a cornerstone of Islam that the unconverted souls are evil and it is ones duty to God to kill all of them. ... Islam is at war with the world and has been for the past thousand years. It has never stopped, we only held it at bay for a couple of centuries or so thinking it was over.
The crusades were not Christians warring and spreading Christianity to the Muslim world. The Crusades were defending Europe and Christianity itself from the onslaught of hundreds of years of warring Islam which had spread like a cancer through the Middle East, Africa and Asia with astonishing speed and complete and total dominance. A conquering Islam was knocking on Europe's door, and it was the great Kings and warriors of Spain who answered and pushed back. Western technology and fearless leadership was supreme, even back then, against the barbaric and unchanged precepts of Islam. ... Islam is an idea, a warped religion. ... It is the most dangerous of all human evils, it is sickened, unfettered thought and devotion to a religiously warped and radical concept of salvation and proclamation.
It’s depressing to think that there are American soldiers and marines in the Middle East, representing America, who have such warped, distorted, ignorant, and hateful views such as this. The author is boasts proudly about how he has helped people in the region, but at the same time he viciously attacks their religion. If their religion really so evil, at war with the West, and seeking to kill all nonbelievers, why would he seek to save them from dictators? I can’t imagine how can he believe all that and not go insane from the self-contradictions.
As much as he hates Islam, I think he hates liberalism even more:
I can understand why liberals would side with this, Liberalism being so close to the way they operate and think. ... All you atheist will be killed. All you homosexuals will be beheaded. All you woman will be veiled, silenced and become mere property to the men to do with as they wish. All you drug users will loose first your hand, then your arm and if you still use, finally your head. All you drinkers will loose your fingers, then your hand, then your arms. All you non believers will be killed. All you FREE SPEACH zealots will be silenced and tortured, with parts of your body cut off every time you speak out like you do here and you will be imprisoned. ... This is what you God Damn liberals want to defend and embrace in your complete stupidity and total selfishness.
Aren’t we lucky that we are protected from such things like this marine? If people like he were in charge, we wouldn’t have to worry about the status of nonbelievers, the ability of women to vote, or having our free speech silenced. He genuinely cares about liberty and American democratic values so our future is safe in his hands. Right?
Oh, wait, this is the same person who said that Linda Ronstadt is the “the new poster child for resending woman's right to vote,” so maybe he isn’t the best person to trust with our liberty...
In my mind I don't fight for people like you liberals. I fight for real Americans and the best President the United States could possible have at this place in the timeline of human history. And most of all, I fight for the grateful MILLIONS of Iraqi, Afghanistan and Kuwaiti people who now live in freedom for the first time in the history of these countries. The vast majority of them LOVE Americans and the American Soldiers.
Well, it seems as though it was correct of me to rethink things above — he certainly doesn’t sound like he is interested in fighting for people who disagree with him, and that suggests that he isn’t fighting for people’s right to disagree with him. Strange that he things we should be grateful for him fighting authoritarian Islamists when he appears to be no less authoritarian in his own politics and attitudes. Aside from the fact that no one has been dumb enough to give him a chance to put his ideas into effect, what’s the difference between him and the people he fights?
He says that he fights for the millions of people in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait... who follow a religion that is the “most dangerous of all human evils.” The vast majority of people there “LOVE Americans and the American soldiers,” even as they believe that their “duty to God“ is to kill the unconverted and who see themselves as “at war with the world.”
Is your head spinning, too?
The TERRORISTS and SOCIALISTS and COMMUNISTS and BRUTAL DICTATORS ALL want KERRY to win. YOU Liberals keep great company. ... Imagine, Osama Bin Laden and YOU liberals have the same ideals and wishes. SCARY STUPID LIBERALS.
I’m guessing that this marine has spent a lot of quality time with Osama bin Laden personally, discussing things like politics and international diplomacy, thus providing him with the knowledge and insight necessary to know exactly what it is that bin Laden and his followers want in terms of American foreign policy.
I myself haven’t had the chance to spend that much time learning from Islamic extremists like Osama bin Laden and thus don’t have the incredible expertise that this marine does, so I guess it would be wise not to question or challenge his judgment here. Right?
Islam has declared war on the US for over twenty years during both parties control of the US government. ONLY BUSH has had the balls and the VISION to look at our destruction and attackers in the face and say NOT HERE NOT NOW and take the fight to the enemy. All that you liberals have ever done is have tea and champaign with the enemies of the Free World. Giving them comfort, money, secrets, awards and compassion all the while they spit in your face time and time again.
Some of the nations this Marine criticizes includes Saudi Arabia and Pakistan — nations that President Bush has voiced strong support for. I won’t argue that there isn’t quite a lot wrong with how those governments have supported and encouraged Islamic extremism, but it’s instructive that this author can’t muster any outrage about how his favorite president has treated them and supported them himself.
If this represents anything close to the quality of thinking and reasoning common to those who walked out of Linda Ronstadt’s concert in Las Vegas and those who are claiming to no longer be fans, I think that I can say with some confidence that they are fans she can do without. Let’s be honest here, what kind of artist or entertainer would wish to be even remotely associated with people like those quoted above?
If thinking and believing like this are what is required in order to be considered a “patriotic American,” then I would be proud to accept the labels of “unpatriotic” and “anti-American.” These people don’t look our sound anything like the sort of America I would want to live in or be happy about.
Feb 14, 2013 14:18:10 GMT -5 @robert Axel said:
I would like to have hoped we as a country have matured a bit since then, but....