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Nov 10, 2012 3:54:43 GMT @dianna said:
I hope she opens up about why she never married. Even in her earlier interviews like the one above it wasn't a life goal. It also sounds like there was a lot of drama during her relationships. lolNov 10, 2012 8:29:31 GMT @philly said:
I knew Kerrey dated Debra Winger, never heard about Linda.Nov 13, 2012 13:51:43 GMT @eddiejinnj said:
i do recall winger dating a politician but i never really knew who he was. never saw him associated with linda before either. eddiejinnjNov 13, 2012 19:26:12 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 10, 2012 3:54:43 GMT @dianna said:
I hope she opens up about why she never married. Even in her earlier interviews like the one above it wasn't a life goal. It also sounds like there was a lot of drama during her relationships. lolCuriously, Linda mention in the Playboy interview that she was skittish about marriage. That had me wondering if she was skittish because of there possibly being someone in her past that she did want to marry, but the person didn't feel the same way towards her that she did for him, and that altered her thoughts about marriage?
Nov 14, 2012 5:47:07 GMT @dianna said:
Yeah, I think Linda was/ is very independent.. She dated some very affluent men.To me it seems she is happy with her choice of never marrying and is fine with that, if not, she'd be a man- hater for sure and bitter, like if something bad happened ... she seems to be friendly with her past boyfriends.. . So if there was any drama during her relationships. or if they were highly intense, seems like she walked away with no hard feelings even somewhat detached. and that's good!Nov 14, 2012 15:02:38 GMT @erik said:
She did say in her 2004 interview on CBS Sunday Morning, promoting Hummin' To Myself, that she had a great respect for the institution of marriage, but that it wasn't really for her. She obviously values her independence very highly, but she also still maintains friendships from her past, men or women. And in a business known for its catty and often confrontational behavior, that's saying a lot (IMHO).Nov 14, 2012 16:28:01 GMT @richwar said:
Jim CarreySteve Martin
Albert Brooks
She did have a propensity for comedians.
Nov 14, 2012 22:01:03 GMT @sliderocker said:
Although she never mentioned anyone by name, there was one interview I was reading, in which she seemed to be suggesting some of the celebrities she dated didn't work out because of their egos. The impression I got was that some may have been more interested in themselves than in her. She also dated movie producer George Lucas, which must have been an extremely serious relationship at one point because she said they were engaged at one point and he gave her an engagement ring. No reason was ever given on why they never married or why the relationship ended. Not knowing Linda personally, I can't really say if she never married because she was - as Erik says - a very independent lady and that marriage wasn't for her or that she never found the person she loved deeply enough to marry or had high expectations and standards that were hard enough for anyone to live up to. Nov 16, 2012 20:35:30 GMT @erik said:
I think it's safe to say that she was married to her music, her life's work after all, and always tried to keep it stimulating.Nov 17, 2012 20:37:05 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 16, 2012 20:35:30 GMT @erik said:
I think it's safe to say that she was married to her music, her life's work after all, and always tried to keep it stimulating.Nov 17, 2012 23:53:57 GMT @erik said:
Quote by sliderocker:I'd say that's a true statment though would one also say Linda is now separated or divorced from the music, since she's retired?
Nov 18, 2012 1:18:11 GMT @dianna said:
Nov 17, 2012 23:53:57 GMT @erik said:
Quote by sliderocker:In a sense, perhaps it is; but if Linda feels the voice has started to go, then it's not so much a divorce as it is what it ought to be, one of the most well-earned and hard-won valedictories in pop music history. I don't think she'll ever leave music behind, it'll always be there in her heart.
Nov 18, 2012 19:25:23 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 17, 2012 23:53:57 GMT @erik said:
In a sense, perhaps it is; but if Linda feels the voice has started to go, then it's not so much a divorce as it is what it ought to be, one of the most well-earned and hard-won valedictories in pop music history. I don't think she'll ever leave music behind, it'll always be there in her heart.Nov 18, 2012 21:04:28 GMT @dianna said:
slide, which article was that from? Hasn't she always felt that way tho? Even when she was at her peak. I remember one award show, possibly the grammys, she was not there to accept an award, and the woman accepting for her (Karla Bonoff??) on Linda's behalf, said, she doesn't feel that she is good enough. Nov 19, 2012 1:36:23 GMT @erik said:
Quote by dianna:Hasn't she always felt that way tho? Even when she was at her peak. I remember one award show, possibly the grammys, she was not there to accept an award, and the woman accepting for her (Karla Bonoff??) on Linda's behalf, said, she doesn't feel that she is good enough.
Nov 19, 2012 1:37:55 GMT @philly said:
I think I read about Linda 'reportedly' being engaged to some music or concert promoter around the time she was recording with Aaron Neville? And she was thinking about moving to the New Orleans area at that time too? Can't remember the guys name As far as getting married, she offered this opinion in a 2008 NYT article:
She has never married. “I’m very bad at compromise, and there’s a lot of compromise in marriage,” she says. “Even swans aren’t as monogamous as they say.”
also:
Touring the community garden in East San Jose the other day, chatting away about nitrogen in the soil amid rustling corn, Doña Linda was in her element.
“At this point in my life, I’m not as single-mindedly focused on music,” she said. “I’m really focused on how do you stop erosion.”
Nov 19, 2012 1:46:10 GMT @erik said:
Quote by philly:And she was thinking about moving to the New Orleans area at that time too? Can't remember the guys name
Nov 19, 2012 1:54:45 GMT @robertaxel said:
Nov 19, 2012 1:46:10 GMT @erik said:
Quote by philly:If memory serves me right, the guy in question is Quentin Davis, who I think was the impresario of the New Orleans Jazz Festival in the late 80s.
Nov 19, 2012 2:03:21 GMT @philly said:
Nov 19, 2012 1:46:10 GMT @erik said:
Quote by philly:If memory serves me right, the guy in question is Quentin Davis, who I think was the impresario of the New Orleans Jazz Festival in the late 80s.
Nov 19, 2012 10:31:22 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 18, 2012 21:04:28 GMT @dianna said:
slide, which article was that from? Hasn't she always felt that way tho? Even when she was at her peak. I remember one award show, possibly the grammys, she was not there to accept an award, and the woman accepting for her (Karla Bonoff??) on Linda's behalf, said, she doesn't feel that she is good enough. But, I'll see if I can find the article/interview and either post the exact comment or provide the link. It may take a few days though as I'm very busy this week at work. Only one off day and it's not even Thanksgiving that I'm off! (Not that I'm complaining as it's triple pay to be working Thanksgiving and the day after.)
Nov 19, 2012 17:35:38 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
She said she felt something like she was just an ordinary person (when she did the interview) and wouldn't have felt comfortable doing the shows in question. I thought that was very odd feelings for her to be having yet I thought it demonstrated the ease with which she could leave the performing behind. dianna
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slide, which article was that from? Hasn't she always felt that way tho? Even when she was at her peak. I remember one award show, possibly the grammys, she was not there to accept an award, and the woman accepting for her (Karla Bonoff??) on Linda's behalf, said, she doesn't feel that she is good enough.
Linda's had that problem of "battling egos" or internal conflict for as long as I can remember. On one hand she knows (and has said) she could sing rings around most anyone and on the other hand has some self-deprecating, anachronistic moments which she must have brought into this lifetime (probably nurtured by her Catholocism).
When I met Linda back in 1972 I was the blithering idiot teen fan and could barely speak I was so nervous. As she left the stage after a rousing performance at my university there I was this college freshman, perfectly positioned as she walked towards me back stage, holding all my Ronstadt albums and a collage board hoping for an autograph or two. I announced "Linda, you're my favorite singer" to which she stopped, smiled and replied "Well bless your heart." She even posed for some photos (probably felt sorry for me).
My feeling was confirmed as it wasn't long afterwards I was reading an interview of Linda and I can't remember how the topic came up but she said "recently this guy comes up to me and says I was his favorite singer and the only thing I could think of was man, does this guy have bad taste!"
I think her inner conflict comes from being misplaced in time. Good for the rest of us though. Hard for her. Her intuitiive nature to follow her heart along with that gift of the "Voice" has gotten her through and benefitted us all.
Linda Ronstadt - "Lose Again" (Official Music Video)
Nov 19, 2012 22:33:43 GMT @eddiejinnj said:
wow, i never read or heard her say that she could sing rings around most anybody. do you have reference/s where this is from and at what age did she say this? eddiejinnjNov 20, 2012 0:52:16 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
Nov 19, 2012 22:33:43 GMT @eddiejinnj said:
wow, i never read or heard her say that she could sing rings around most anybody. do you have reference/s where this is from and at what age did she say this? eddiejinnjNov 20, 2012 19:56:56 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 19, 2012 17:35:38 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
Linda's had that problem of "battling egos" or internal conflict for as long as I can remember. On one hand she knows (and has said) she could sing rings around most anyone and on the other hand has some self-deprecating, anachronistic moments which she must have brought into this lifetime (probably nurtured by her Catholocism).
When I met Linda back in 1972 I was the blithering idiot teen fan and could barely speak I was so nervous. As she left the stage after a rousing performance at my university there I was this college freshman, perfectly positioned as she walked towards me back stage, holding all my Ronstadt albums and a collage board hoping for an autograph or two. I announced "Linda, you're my favorite singer" to which she stopped, smiled and replied "Well bless your heart." She even posed for some photos (probably felt sorry for me).
My feeling was confirmed as it wasn't long afterwards I was reading an interview of Linda and I can't remember how the topic came up but she said "recently this guy comes up to me and says I was his favorite singer and the only thing I could think of was man, does this guy have bad taste!"
I think her inner conflict comes from being misplaced in time. Good for the rest of us though. Hard for her. Her intuitiive nature to follow her heart along with that gift of the "Voice" has gotten her through and benefitted us all.
Linda's pre-HLAW music wasn't bad and neither was she a bad singer in her younger days (which she claimed to be in one interview), but I sometimes wonder if she just didn't like the songs she did because of her management or record company not having the set-up which would've allowed her access to better songs? Even so, Linda's albums always had some magical performances and there weren't that many - if any - bad performances.
Nov 20, 2012 20:46:07 GMT @erik said:
She really is one of the most self-critical single artists I can think of in this business. In a way, it's a good thing, because it keeps down what might otherwise have become a swelled ego (memo to Taylor Swift!).In another way, however, it is a bit depressing, because I don't think she really realizes what it has meant for us as fans, or her peers at large.
Nov 21, 2012 20:37:23 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 20, 2012 20:46:07 GMT @erik said:
She really is one of the most self-critical single artists I can think of in this business. In a way, it's a good thing, because it keeps down what might otherwise have become a swelled ego (memo to Taylor Swift!).In another way, however, it is a bit depressing, because I don't think she really realizes what it has meant for us as fans, or her peers at large.
But, I do wish she would stop constantly putting her music down because I think the part of the public that only knows her from the far too few hits that are played on oldies radio could be scared off from searching out the rest of her material. If I were her manager, I would be cautioning her not to be making such blanketing damnations about her entire catalog.
Nov 21, 2012 20:58:36 GMT @erik said:
Trust me, I wish she'd be a bit more understanding as to why we all liked what she did from the late 1960s into the 80s. It has proven to be timeless in a way that so much of what's on the radio today isn't going to be (IMHO).Nov 21, 2012 21:04:29 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
Linda is a perfectionist Slide. They are like that and since it is her life, her material, she must feel those comments are hers to make. Doesn't mean they are true or that we have to like it. She is one of those people who will become more popular once she is dead and buried unable to make those unpopular comments. ha I am glad she is still around to make them.Nov 21, 2012 23:20:41 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 21, 2012 20:58:36 GMT @erik said:
Trust me, I wish she'd be a bit more understanding as to why we all liked what she did from the late 1960s into the 80s. It has proven to be timeless in a way that so much of what's on the radio today isn't going to be (IMHO).Likewise, Linda's solo albums for Capitol may not have been big sellers because the recordings may not have been what Capitol wanted and they may have told her so because they wanted and expected hits. In Linda's early days, the 45s still dominated the sales with albums almost an afterthought. And except for "Different Drum" and "Long, Long Time," there were no strong standouts that possibly could've made the Top 40.
Nov 21, 2012 23:28:35 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
And except for "Different Drum" and "Long, Long Time," there were no strong standouts that possibly could've made the Top 40. This was a strong stand-out to me:
(look at the unusual commentary beginning on page 2 of the youtube page)
I think her early albums were total gems, hits or not.
I wonder if she dated John Byner? Another comedian.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byner
Nov 22, 2012 6:03:25 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 21, 2012 23:28:35 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
And except for "Different Drum" and "Long, Long Time," there were no strong standouts that possibly could've made the Top 40. This was a strong stand-out to me:
(look at the unusual commentary beginning on page 2 of the youtube page)
I think her early albums were total gems, hits or not.
I wonder if she dated John Byner? Another comedian.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Byner
As for the possibility of Linda dating John Byner, that thought just makes me shudder for some reason. But, to be honest, I don't remember that much about Byner other than he was the host of the tv show whose title escapes me but from which this video clip came, and that he did comedy bits with most of the musical guest stars. And I think he was an impressionist much like Rich Little and did the usual guest shots on the tv talk shows. But, I'm guessing he was more of a Vegas nightclub act than a regular tv act.
Nov 28, 2012 21:08:30 GMT brendywendy said:
Nov 14, 2012 16:28:01 GMT @richwar said:
Jim CarreySteve Martin
Albert Brooks
She did have a propensity for comedians.
Nov 28, 2012 21:19:36 GMT brendywendy said:
Nov 10, 2012 8:29:31 GMT @philly said:
I knew Kerrey dated Debra Winger, never heard about Linda.Nov 28, 2012 21:42:51 GMT brendywendy said:
Nov 19, 2012 2:03:21 GMT @philly said:
Yes, thanks, that's the one, "Quint Davis." I hope Linda clears up the facts from the rumors in her book, since she stopped giving details from her personal life decades ago...[/quoteI WOULD LIKE HER TO SAY THE TRUE NATURE OF HERRELATIONSHIPS WITH JACKSON BROWNE, GRAM PARSONS, GLENN FREY, LOWELL GEORGE, PETE HAMILL , KEVIN KLINE, REX SMITH, BILL MURRAYAND MICK JAGGER. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE MARRIED MAN WAS, THAT SHE WAS SINGING ABOUT IN "LONG LONG TIME". I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PICTURE OF HER WITH GEORGE LUCAS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PICTURE OF HER WITH PETE HAMILL. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT WAS J.D. THAT SHE REFERRED TO IN THE PLAYBOY ARTICLE AS THE ONE TIME SHE TOTALLY FELL IN LOVE. AND IF NOT, WHO THAT WAS. BUT I HAVE A FEELING, HER BOOK WILL BE MORE ABOUT HER TUCSON FAMILY ROOTS AND HER MUSICAL MEMORIES, WHERE SHE WILL TOUCH ON SOME OF THE FAMOUS PEOPLE SHE KNEW. BUT I DOUBT IT WILL BE A TRUE EXPOSE OF ALL HER PERSONAL LOVE RELATIONSHIPS. ALTHOUGH, IT WOULD BE A GREAT READ, HA! AND I CAN HOPE...... ;
Nov 29, 2012 0:37:42 GMT @erik said:
Quote by brendywendy:I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE MARRIED MAN WAS, THAT SHE WAS SINGING ABOUT IN "LONG LONG TIME".
I doubt we'll hear any juicy details; and to be honest, so much of that stuff has been fodder for the tabloids over the years that to hear anything else about it would bore me to tears. It's the professional and musical angle, how she interacted with her peers on the pure level of the art she was creating, that would interest me the most.
Nov 29, 2012 16:11:09 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
Maybe she will write two or an unedited version that will come out upon her death. ha I think people would like to know the more personal stuff and what gossip was real and what wasn't. Up until the late 80's she was very open about her personal life. Not sure what shut her down after that.Nov 29, 2012 17:59:09 GMT @erik said:
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:I think people would like to know the more personal stuff and what gossip was real and what wasn't. Up until the late 80's she was very open about her personal life. Not sure what shut her down after that.
I for one don't need to hear juicy gossip.
Nov 29, 2012 19:18:31 GMT @sliderocker said:
Nov 29, 2012 17:59:09 GMT @erik said:
Quote by ronstadtfanaz:I can only chalk it up to the press going all tabloid, and being more focused on gossip than her actual body of work. Quite frankly, I'd shut down too if I had them going over every little detail of my life except what matters most.
I for one don't need to hear juicy gossip.
But, the tabloid press wouldn't be what they are if we didn't contribute by buying the tabloid magazines. And we buy because we want to know about the person whose work we are buying in one form or another. We don't know them personally and they don't know us personally, but obviously, I think many of us would like to know the celebrity on a personal basis but that's not possible.
The tabloid press and showbiz coverage has changed a lot since the 1980s. I used to watch Entertainment Tonight every night. In the old days, you often saw stories about celebrities and singers when they had new music coming out, or a new movie, or had done something notable like a big benefit concert. Of course if a famous person was involved in a scandal, that was legitimate news. But over the years, being a celebrity has become more important than being talented. Think of all your favorite talented celebs and how often you see stories about them in the media. I stopped watching entertainment news altogether during the Michael Jackson scandals and never went back.
Nov 29, 2012 19:47:46 GMT @dianna said:
we don't even need to purchase the rag mags anymore, it's all over the internet.. regardless if I want to know or not. (hear that kardashians!!!!) I'd love to boycot anything kardashian from my computer. Nov 29, 2012 19:51:31 GMT @robertaxel said:
Nov 29, 2012 19:47:46 GMT @dianna said:
we don't even need to purchase the rag mags anymore, it's all over the internet.. regardless if I want to know or not. (hear that kardashians!!!!) I'd love to boycot anything kardashian from my computer. Nov 29, 2012 20:40:14 GMT @ronstadtfanaz said:
The only two celebrities that ever impressed me were Linda Ronstadt and (for some reason) Pope John Paul when he came to town. I think I just got caught up in that whirlwind when he drove through the desert in his Popemobile. I am not even Catholic and have major problems with that (and most) Christian religions. The real heroes to me are people you rarely hear about that are doing good things without fanfare for the sake of doing good things and while I seemingly put Linda on a pedestal (holdover from my formative years) she seems just like everyone else to me (except much smarter and extremely intuitive). Oddly (or not) I have had dozens and dozens of dreams about her as if we were family so I look at her totally different these days.Nov 29, 2012 21:41:58 GMT @dianna said:
Lots of people do kind things w/o any recognition. People who rescue and help animals impress me a lot.