Post by the Scribe on Feb 14, 2021 11:08:59 GMT
Wall Street is nothing more than an elite global casino. It's rigged to favor the high rollers who prey on the little guy who frankly is stupid and addicted. Even the SEC seems rigged. Where the hell were they when all this stuff is going on? Time for a shake up. This place need to be taxed and that tax needs to be collected.
Reddit day traders wanted to beat Wall Street to prove the system is rigged. Instead, they did it by losing.
www.yahoo.com/news/reddit-day-traders-wanted-beat-032536114.html
Tyler Sonnemaker
Sat, February 13, 2021, 8:25 PM
A group of demonstrators are gathered by the New York Stock Exchange Andadolu Agency/Getty Images
Reddit day traders tried to beat Wall Street at its own game to prove that the system is rigged.
Instead, brokerages locked them out and their holdings tanked, while some hedge funds still won big.
Experts said Wall Street's reaction showed just how stacked the deck is against small investors.
Visit the Business section of Insider for more stories.
Keith Gill, the day trader and member of Reddit group WallStreetBets who is widely credited with igniting the recent GameStop trading frenzy, claimed in late January that he had turned his $54,000 investment into a $48 million dollar fortune.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/gamestop-investor-deepfuckingvalue-roaring-kitty-reddit-stocks-wall-street-2021-1-1030022004?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Days later, it had been sliced by more than half to $22 million, and regulators had set their sights on Gill, investigating him over potential disclosure violations.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/gamestop-reddit-trader-keith-gill-roaring-kitty-investigation-regulators-advisor-2021-2-1030044721?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Many retail investors fared far worse. One Robinhood user lost $70,000 in savings and contemplated committing suicide. Another, Alexander Kearns, did.
www.businessinsider.com/addicted-to-robinhood-wallstreetbets-day-trading-lost-everything-2021-2?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
GameStop's stock, which had peaked at more than $480, had dropped to around $52 as of Friday.
Before the rollercoaster went off the rails, however, one hedge fund walked away with a $700 million profit, brokerage app Robinhood raised billions in new financing after being forced to restrict its users from buying stocks, and trading giant Citadel likely made a hefty sum from the increased market volatility.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/elon-musk-gamestop-tweet-senvest-hedge-fund-700-million-profit-2021-2-1030041054?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
www.businessinsider.com/robinhood-raises-additional-24-billion-reddit-daytrader-gamestop-amc-frenzy-2021-2?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
wallstreetonparade.com/2021/02/citadel-didnt-just-bail-out-a-gamestop-short-seller-citadel-also-had-a-big-short-position-in-gamestop/
While the dust has far from settled, and some Wall Street firms did lose big, a David versus Goliath victory now hardly seems like the most likely outcome.
www.businessinsider.com/winners-losers-gamestop-reddit-wallstreetbets-traders-wall-street-short-squeeze-2021-?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
It had made for a compelling narrative, too: an army of retail investors - without deep pockets, sophisticated trading algorithms, proprietary market data, or other tools of the trade - banding together to beat powerful, corrupt financial institutions at their own game.
Ultimately though, Wall Street and other big-money investors still appear to have ended up on top, and experts, at least those outside the industry, say it's that outcome that further proves how the system is rigged.
Insider spoke with three experts on financial markets - none of whom work at traditional financial services firms. They said there's a lot of work to be done to make the markets work for small investors again, and, just as importantly, to restore the public's faith that the markets can do just that.
"Geared to favor the big"
"The whole business is basically a power dynamic… it's geared to favor the big over the small," Garphil Julien, a research associate with the anti-monopoly think tank Open Markets Institute, told Insider. "Those with enormous amounts of capital, enormous amounts of money, will use their power to basically get what they want, and when they get what they want, someone else is going to lose," he said.
He's not alone in that assessment.
According to a recent CNBC poll, a record-breaking 57% of Americans view the stock market as a reflection only of how corporations and the wealthy are doing, not the rest of the country. That's true among financial elites and Republicans as well, both historic defenders of the free markets.
www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/americans-increasingly-feel-the-stock-market-isnt-barometer-for-economy-but-instead-the-wealdoesnt-indicate-overall-economy-health-but-that-of-the-wealthy-and-coporations.html
"Is the market really fair for individual investors? Is it really competitive? What we're seeing is that it's not," Julien said.
As former Wall Street analyst Alexis Goldstein recently put it in an op-ed for The New York Times: "Wall Street's edge over retail traders remains, as always, structural," and even if a bunch of Redditors band together, "the house still wins." But, she argued, "rather than gambling on the dubious promise of more Americans gaining access to the casino, it's time to rewrite the rules to ensure that the house doesn't always win."
www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/opinion/gamestop-biden-wall-street-reddit.html
Julien said that means adding more consumer protections, as well as cracking down on the monopolization of various segments of the financial services industry. For example, he pointed to brokerage apps, like the Morgan Stanley-owned E*TRADE and TD Ameritrade, which is owned by Charles Schwab.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/morgan-stanley-agrees-to-buy-etrade-13-billion-online-brokers-2020-2-1028923577?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
www.businessinsider.com/charles-schwab-and-td-ameritrade-us-branch-maps-overlaps-2019-12?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Making money by "making money"
Another problem underlying the GameStop saga is that too many Wall Street firms have gotten into businesses that are inherently designed to extract as much money as possible from the financial system for their own gain, rather than helping allocate it toward uses that would help the economy overall.
Amid last month's trading frenzy, the markets ultimately proved fairly resilient, but that doesn't mean they're working in ways that protect smaller investors who have more to lose.
"There will be a temptation to say... the market isn't broken, everything's fine," Barbara Roper, director of investor protection at the Consumer Federation of America, told Insider. "While it's true that the market isn't broken - yet - I don't think it follows that everything is fine."
Roper said it's good to focus on improving transparency and accountability around practices that may involve conflicts of interest, such as payment for order flow, over which Robinhood and Citadel are both facing scrutiny, but that the issue is also far more fundamental and widespread.
Read more: Robinhood makes hundreds of millions from selling customer orders. That business model is about to come into focus.
www.businessinsider.com/robinhood-payment-for-order-flow-gamestop-regulation-revenue-2021-2?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
"The financial services industry itself has sort of divorced itself from the more boring and less profitable job of helping to steer capital toward its best uses in support of the productive economy, and has for some time now, made most of its money making money," Roper said.
"Financial firms make all of their money off of securitizing everything under the sun," she said. "They found a way that it's really profitable, and so they're pursuing the profits even though the niche is overfilled."
But that problem "was at the heart of the last financial crisis, and we didn't solve it there," Roper said, referring to the 2008 financial crisis.
Since then, there have been multiple near-crises and the problems have only gotten worse.
www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/business/economy/hedge-fund-bailout-dodd-frank.html
Robinhood itself has been criticized - and fined $65 million by the Securities and Exchange Commission - over high-frequency trading, a controversial practice that uses powerful software to execute large trades in fractions of a second, allowing firms to make money off momentary changes in the price of stocks. Wall Street banks are even evading regulations around derivatives trading - the same risky behavior that precipitated the 2008 crisis - according to financial blog Wall Street On Parade.
www.morningstar.com/articles/990862/remember-when-high-frequency-trading-was-a-bad-thing
www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-321
wallstreetonparade.com/2020/08/wall-street-banks-are-dangerously-evading-u-s-derivatives-rules-by-making-trades-at-foreign-subsidiaries/
Roper said she doesn't see dangerous Wall Street business models being addressed anytime soon, either.
"If we didn't do it when Wall Street literally brought the global economy to the brink of collapse, I don't think we're going to do it now because some people on Reddit put on a short squeeze and caused some chaos in the markets for a few weeks," she said. "I guess I'm as cynical as the people on WallStreetBets."
"Broader public outrage"
Part of Americans' frustration with the current financial system is that it has become so complex that only Wall Street insiders really seem to know how everything works, something the industry uses to its advantage to dodge blame in situations like GameStop.
"It's another episode similar to those past ones of the public feeling like there are multiple things wrong here - not really know what is exactly wrong, but just feeling like something is not working," Graham Steele, senior fellow at the American Economic Liberties Project, told Insider.
"It's just a general popular sense that a system wherein this kind of scenario can come to pass, just fundamentally doesn't work for the public and it is 'rigged,' or something else, but they know something is wrong."
Steele also said widening inequality, pandemic response failures, and polarization around the election amplified the GameStop fury: "It feels like you're layering a new financial episode on top of other, broader public outrage."
That's also apparent in the voices from across the political spectrum that have criticized Wall Street in recent weeks: progressive Democrats like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Elizabeth Warren; far-right Republicans like Sen. Ted Cruz; and tech investors like Elon Musk and Mark Cuban.
www.businessinsider.com/gamestop-warren-aoc-slam-wall-street-market-like-a-casino-2021-1?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
But that's where their agreement ends, with Democrats typically favoring government intervention, and Republicans typically pushing for more transparency and then letting the markets figure out the rest.
"In terms of the Silicon Valley folks," Steele said, they're "painting themselves as kind of populists, but a lot of them have their own sort of financial interests at stake here. A lot of their solutions are like, don't use that app, use the app that I invested in."
"I just don't see Elizabeth Warren going out there pumping someone else's trading app because a venture capitalist has said, 'that's the right thing to do,'" he added.
Elon Musk, for example, has spent the past few weeks hyping up cryptocurrencies like Dogecoin.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/elon-musk-dogecoin-tweets-bought-for-son-crypto-bitcoin-tesla-2021-2-103006774?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Ultimately, all three experts agreed that making the markets more equitable and aligned with the health of the broader economy will require reforms stretching far beyond the financial services industry.
"Fixing that system requires a whole host of policy solutions that run the gamut from financial regulation to tax policy to how we structure the retirement system to how we deliver healthcare to people," Steele said.
Read more: The SEC is monitoring the GameStop trading frenzy. Here's why lawyers and former regulators say clamping down on the market will be tough.
www.businessinsider.com/gamestop-sec-wallstreetbets-reddit-law-regulations-stocks-2021-1?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
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Reddit day traders wanted to beat Wall Street to prove the system is rigged. Instead, they did it by losing.
www.yahoo.com/news/reddit-day-traders-wanted-beat-032536114.html
Tyler Sonnemaker
Sat, February 13, 2021, 8:25 PM
A group of demonstrators are gathered by the New York Stock Exchange Andadolu Agency/Getty Images
Reddit day traders tried to beat Wall Street at its own game to prove that the system is rigged.
Instead, brokerages locked them out and their holdings tanked, while some hedge funds still won big.
Experts said Wall Street's reaction showed just how stacked the deck is against small investors.
Visit the Business section of Insider for more stories.
Keith Gill, the day trader and member of Reddit group WallStreetBets who is widely credited with igniting the recent GameStop trading frenzy, claimed in late January that he had turned his $54,000 investment into a $48 million dollar fortune.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/gamestop-investor-deepfuckingvalue-roaring-kitty-reddit-stocks-wall-street-2021-1-1030022004?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Days later, it had been sliced by more than half to $22 million, and regulators had set their sights on Gill, investigating him over potential disclosure violations.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/gamestop-reddit-trader-keith-gill-roaring-kitty-investigation-regulators-advisor-2021-2-1030044721?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Many retail investors fared far worse. One Robinhood user lost $70,000 in savings and contemplated committing suicide. Another, Alexander Kearns, did.
www.businessinsider.com/addicted-to-robinhood-wallstreetbets-day-trading-lost-everything-2021-2?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
GameStop's stock, which had peaked at more than $480, had dropped to around $52 as of Friday.
Before the rollercoaster went off the rails, however, one hedge fund walked away with a $700 million profit, brokerage app Robinhood raised billions in new financing after being forced to restrict its users from buying stocks, and trading giant Citadel likely made a hefty sum from the increased market volatility.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/elon-musk-gamestop-tweet-senvest-hedge-fund-700-million-profit-2021-2-1030041054?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
www.businessinsider.com/robinhood-raises-additional-24-billion-reddit-daytrader-gamestop-amc-frenzy-2021-2?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
wallstreetonparade.com/2021/02/citadel-didnt-just-bail-out-a-gamestop-short-seller-citadel-also-had-a-big-short-position-in-gamestop/
While the dust has far from settled, and some Wall Street firms did lose big, a David versus Goliath victory now hardly seems like the most likely outcome.
www.businessinsider.com/winners-losers-gamestop-reddit-wallstreetbets-traders-wall-street-short-squeeze-2021-?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
It had made for a compelling narrative, too: an army of retail investors - without deep pockets, sophisticated trading algorithms, proprietary market data, or other tools of the trade - banding together to beat powerful, corrupt financial institutions at their own game.
Ultimately though, Wall Street and other big-money investors still appear to have ended up on top, and experts, at least those outside the industry, say it's that outcome that further proves how the system is rigged.
Insider spoke with three experts on financial markets - none of whom work at traditional financial services firms. They said there's a lot of work to be done to make the markets work for small investors again, and, just as importantly, to restore the public's faith that the markets can do just that.
"Geared to favor the big"
"The whole business is basically a power dynamic… it's geared to favor the big over the small," Garphil Julien, a research associate with the anti-monopoly think tank Open Markets Institute, told Insider. "Those with enormous amounts of capital, enormous amounts of money, will use their power to basically get what they want, and when they get what they want, someone else is going to lose," he said.
He's not alone in that assessment.
According to a recent CNBC poll, a record-breaking 57% of Americans view the stock market as a reflection only of how corporations and the wealthy are doing, not the rest of the country. That's true among financial elites and Republicans as well, both historic defenders of the free markets.
www.cnbc.com/2020/12/11/americans-increasingly-feel-the-stock-market-isnt-barometer-for-economy-but-instead-the-wealdoesnt-indicate-overall-economy-health-but-that-of-the-wealthy-and-coporations.html
"Is the market really fair for individual investors? Is it really competitive? What we're seeing is that it's not," Julien said.
As former Wall Street analyst Alexis Goldstein recently put it in an op-ed for The New York Times: "Wall Street's edge over retail traders remains, as always, structural," and even if a bunch of Redditors band together, "the house still wins." But, she argued, "rather than gambling on the dubious promise of more Americans gaining access to the casino, it's time to rewrite the rules to ensure that the house doesn't always win."
www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/opinion/gamestop-biden-wall-street-reddit.html
Julien said that means adding more consumer protections, as well as cracking down on the monopolization of various segments of the financial services industry. For example, he pointed to brokerage apps, like the Morgan Stanley-owned E*TRADE and TD Ameritrade, which is owned by Charles Schwab.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/morgan-stanley-agrees-to-buy-etrade-13-billion-online-brokers-2020-2-1028923577?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
www.businessinsider.com/charles-schwab-and-td-ameritrade-us-branch-maps-overlaps-2019-12?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Making money by "making money"
Another problem underlying the GameStop saga is that too many Wall Street firms have gotten into businesses that are inherently designed to extract as much money as possible from the financial system for their own gain, rather than helping allocate it toward uses that would help the economy overall.
Amid last month's trading frenzy, the markets ultimately proved fairly resilient, but that doesn't mean they're working in ways that protect smaller investors who have more to lose.
"There will be a temptation to say... the market isn't broken, everything's fine," Barbara Roper, director of investor protection at the Consumer Federation of America, told Insider. "While it's true that the market isn't broken - yet - I don't think it follows that everything is fine."
Roper said it's good to focus on improving transparency and accountability around practices that may involve conflicts of interest, such as payment for order flow, over which Robinhood and Citadel are both facing scrutiny, but that the issue is also far more fundamental and widespread.
Read more: Robinhood makes hundreds of millions from selling customer orders. That business model is about to come into focus.
www.businessinsider.com/robinhood-payment-for-order-flow-gamestop-regulation-revenue-2021-2?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
"The financial services industry itself has sort of divorced itself from the more boring and less profitable job of helping to steer capital toward its best uses in support of the productive economy, and has for some time now, made most of its money making money," Roper said.
"Financial firms make all of their money off of securitizing everything under the sun," she said. "They found a way that it's really profitable, and so they're pursuing the profits even though the niche is overfilled."
But that problem "was at the heart of the last financial crisis, and we didn't solve it there," Roper said, referring to the 2008 financial crisis.
Since then, there have been multiple near-crises and the problems have only gotten worse.
www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/business/economy/hedge-fund-bailout-dodd-frank.html
Robinhood itself has been criticized - and fined $65 million by the Securities and Exchange Commission - over high-frequency trading, a controversial practice that uses powerful software to execute large trades in fractions of a second, allowing firms to make money off momentary changes in the price of stocks. Wall Street banks are even evading regulations around derivatives trading - the same risky behavior that precipitated the 2008 crisis - according to financial blog Wall Street On Parade.
www.morningstar.com/articles/990862/remember-when-high-frequency-trading-was-a-bad-thing
www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-321
wallstreetonparade.com/2020/08/wall-street-banks-are-dangerously-evading-u-s-derivatives-rules-by-making-trades-at-foreign-subsidiaries/
Roper said she doesn't see dangerous Wall Street business models being addressed anytime soon, either.
"If we didn't do it when Wall Street literally brought the global economy to the brink of collapse, I don't think we're going to do it now because some people on Reddit put on a short squeeze and caused some chaos in the markets for a few weeks," she said. "I guess I'm as cynical as the people on WallStreetBets."
"Broader public outrage"
Part of Americans' frustration with the current financial system is that it has become so complex that only Wall Street insiders really seem to know how everything works, something the industry uses to its advantage to dodge blame in situations like GameStop.
"It's another episode similar to those past ones of the public feeling like there are multiple things wrong here - not really know what is exactly wrong, but just feeling like something is not working," Graham Steele, senior fellow at the American Economic Liberties Project, told Insider.
"It's just a general popular sense that a system wherein this kind of scenario can come to pass, just fundamentally doesn't work for the public and it is 'rigged,' or something else, but they know something is wrong."
Steele also said widening inequality, pandemic response failures, and polarization around the election amplified the GameStop fury: "It feels like you're layering a new financial episode on top of other, broader public outrage."
That's also apparent in the voices from across the political spectrum that have criticized Wall Street in recent weeks: progressive Democrats like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Elizabeth Warren; far-right Republicans like Sen. Ted Cruz; and tech investors like Elon Musk and Mark Cuban.
www.businessinsider.com/gamestop-warren-aoc-slam-wall-street-market-like-a-casino-2021-1?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
But that's where their agreement ends, with Democrats typically favoring government intervention, and Republicans typically pushing for more transparency and then letting the markets figure out the rest.
"In terms of the Silicon Valley folks," Steele said, they're "painting themselves as kind of populists, but a lot of them have their own sort of financial interests at stake here. A lot of their solutions are like, don't use that app, use the app that I invested in."
"I just don't see Elizabeth Warren going out there pumping someone else's trading app because a venture capitalist has said, 'that's the right thing to do,'" he added.
Elon Musk, for example, has spent the past few weeks hyping up cryptocurrencies like Dogecoin.
markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/elon-musk-dogecoin-tweets-bought-for-son-crypto-bitcoin-tesla-2021-2-103006774?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Ultimately, all three experts agreed that making the markets more equitable and aligned with the health of the broader economy will require reforms stretching far beyond the financial services industry.
"Fixing that system requires a whole host of policy solutions that run the gamut from financial regulation to tax policy to how we structure the retirement system to how we deliver healthcare to people," Steele said.
Read more: The SEC is monitoring the GameStop trading frenzy. Here's why lawyers and former regulators say clamping down on the market will be tough.
www.businessinsider.com/gamestop-sec-wallstreetbets-reddit-law-regulations-stocks-2021-1?r=ts-sub?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Read the original article on Business Insider