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Post by the Scribe on Jan 16, 2023 8:09:56 GMT
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 16, 2023 8:10:44 GMT
Jan 24, 2020 6:04:00 GMT -5 Mr. Kaplansky said: I looked up her 1971 self titled album on wikipedia. Only 1 song has Barry Beckett playing on it. Was only 1 song or was the entire album recorded at muscle shoals? Or was she planning on recording her whole album there but changed her mind? Anyone have any insight?
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 16, 2023 8:11:56 GMT
Jan 24, 2020 6:23:02 GMT -5 the Scribe said:
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"(She's A) Very Lovely Woman"
Batears52 said: Something I wonder about here too....I find it interesting that the "stray" Capitol single is not included..."(She's A) Very Lovely Woman". The other side of the single, "The Long Way Around", is on there...but that came from Hand Sown. Seems a shame...and a natural for a bonus track. Anyone know why? That single has always been kinda strange. It was one of the few songs Linda recorded at Muscle Shoals, and it was released in January 1971 after the Silk Purse LP and "Long Long Time" single. It's a different kind of sound for her too...a little dark. I wish she had done more songs with those guys. Mary Saums' website gives the impression that Glenn Frey played on that session. If true, that may be one of their first recordings together.
I think they wanted a strong single to follow the success of "Long Long Time", but didn't want to use any of the other songs from Silk Purse. Speculation about why "The Long Way Around" was picked as the b-side (again) seems to be that it might still help to promote Hand Sown, plus Linda wanted Kenny Edwards to get the song writing royalty.....Still it's all kinda odd. forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/linda-ronstadt-box-set.70771/
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 16, 2023 8:14:20 GMT
Jan 24, 2020 8:01:39 GMT -5 ausfan2 said:
Extracts from Praguefrank’s Country Music Discography -Linda Ronstadt:
Details of Muscle Shoals and Memphis sessions in July- August 1970
28 July 1970 [no 18712] Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, 3614 Jackson Hwy, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, AL Linda Ronstadt 091 75311 (SHE'S A) VERY LOVELY WOMAN 3021
28 July 1970 [no 18713] prob.Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, 3614 Jackson Hwy, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, AL Linda Ronstadt 092 75312 DOWN SO LOW unissued
July 1970 [no 18683] American Sound Studio, 827 Thomas St., Memphis, TN Linda Ronstadt (No details available)
1 August 1970 [no 19760] Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, 3614 Jackson Hwy, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, AL Linda Ronstadt [purchased masters] 093 77746 JUDGMENT DAY unissued 094 77747 unknown title – probably rejected 095 77748 MOTHER EARTH unissued 096 77749 LOVE HAS NO PRIDE unissued 097 77750 SAD SITUATION unissued 098 77751 SO YOU CAN CLOSE YOUR EYES unissued
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 16, 2023 8:21:28 GMT
Jan 24, 2020 9:15:37 GMT -5 eddiejinnj said: I would love to hear "Down So Low" from that session. Wonder where the masters are? eddiejinnj
Jan 24, 2020 10:13:42 GMT -5 erik said: It always seemed to me that a complete album from Linda recorded at Muscle Shoals would have been something to behold (combined with the tantalizing possibility of what she might have recorded at American Studios in Memphis, where Elvis had made some of the best music of his entire life just a year and a half before). But either she was not very comfortable with what she was recording there, or her confidence wasn't what it should have been.
And as much as she might disagree with this, I thought "She's A Very Lovely Woman" was a minor gem.
Jan 24, 2020 10:48:58 GMT -5 fabtastique said: I don't think Linda curated her recording sessions with the same level of care or business sense as someone like Barbra Streisand did - pretty much every take from every session is stored safely in Streisand's vault, which holds many many unreleased gems.
Linda's didn't seem to keep or care for alternate takes, mixes or unreleased stuff. With the exception of Trio ..... such a shame. If someone spent a bit of time and money the Jerry Wexler sessions could be properly released especially if, as I'm sure I read, they were virtually ready for pressing before Linda pulled them.
But also there doesn't seem to be any current sense of business / sales thinking going on - nothing to capitalise on the huge increase in Linda since the documentary, RRHOF and Kennedy Centre ..... Its shocking that albums like CLARHLW are out of print - one of her biggest selling and critically & commercially applauded albums of her career.
Jan 25, 2020 1:47:46 GMT -5 sliderocker said: eddiejinnj Avatar Jan 24, 2020 9:15:37 GMT -5 eddiejinnj said: I would love to hear "Down So Low" from that session. Wonder where the masters are? eddiejinnj
Perhaps, the Muscle Shoals recording studio, the Muscle Shoals band and Linda were not a good fit? The problem with the sessionography is it doesn't provide enough detail as to who played on the tracks, whether it was the same musicians and backing vocalists on all the songs - Barry Beckett [keyboards]; Tippy Armstrong [guitar]; Weldon Myrick [steel guitar]; David Hood [bass]; Roger Hawkins [drums]; Merry Clayton [backing vocals]; Dianne Davidson [backing vocals]; Miss Ona [backing vocals]. Besides A Very Lovely Woman, the Muscle Shoals band played on Linda's version of Johnny Cash's I Still Miss Someone. Weldon Myrick's steel guitar contribution on the Cash tune was most likely an overdub recorded in Nashville. The above sessionography marks a song as an unknown title, probably rejected, but it's probably the Cash tune.
With the Muscle Shoals recordings (if Linda laid down a vocal) plus the six additional studio recordings she did for the album titled after her name, there was enough numbers to make up an album featuring twelve songs plus having a few spare for non-album B-sides or an occasional A-side on which the live recordings could've been released. That Linda would re-record Down So Low, Love Has No Pride and You Can Close Your Eyes suggests she or John or Capitol or all three were not happy with the outcome.
That may have been about the time someone at Capitol suggested to Linda that she record Stand By Your Man and Help Me Make It Through the Night. I suspect the original plan was to release an album solely recorded in Muscle Shoals, but after A Very Lovely Woman stalled in the charts, Capitol may have balked on releasing an album of Linda recorded in Alabama and eventually deep sixed the album. It's also possible Linda has bad memories as a result and that is why she doesn't like A Very Lovely Woman today. But, as she always said, she picked the songs she wanted to record and she probably wanted to do the song at time but fell out of love with it over time.
Jan 25, 2020 9:25:55 GMT -5 eddiejinnj said: I like the single myself but it is dark which generally I avoid. I think the timing of it given it's style and it came at the end of the psychedelic era had everything to do with how it did on the charts.
Cry is out of print? I think I knew that. Fab, you had talked about releasing stuff along with the movie and I agree that minimally they could have pressed some albums that were out of print that historically were hit albums such as Cry. eddiejinnj
Jan 25, 2020 16:43:37 GMT -5 fabtastique said: eddiejinnj Avatar Jan 25, 2020 9:28:56 GMT -5 eddiejinnj said: Cry is out of print? I think I knew that. Fab, you had talked about releasing stuff along with the movie and I agree that minimally they could have pressed some albums that were out of print that historically were hit albums such as Cry. eddiejinnj Last year was 30th anniversary for CLAR ... would have made sense to release a version to coincide with the doc - apparently Linda / management had no interest ....
I emailed George Massenburg and he was keen to release it along with a few of the outtakes but there was silence from John Boylan
Jan 26, 2020 2:17:20 GMT -5 Partridge said: There has been a resurgence of Ronstadt sales. Many titles are sold out except from third party sellers. No one seems to have anticipated the surge in sales, especially since the CNN airing of the Ronstadt documentary. Yes this would have been an ideal time to have had a "new" release available. Several titles have dropped off the chart because there are no copies left to be sold.
Jan 26, 2020 8:08:05 GMT -5 MokyWI said: What a shame. Once the record sales lose their momentum her sales will most likely not rise again to this potential.
Aug 17, 2021 5:33:59 GMT -5 Deleted said: ausfan2 Avatar Jan 24, 2020 8:01:39 GMT -5 ausfan2 said: Extracts from Praguefrank’s Country Music Discography -Linda Ronstadt:
Details of Muscle Shoals and Memphis sessions in July- August 1970
28 July 1970 [no 18712] Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, 3614 Jackson Hwy, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, AL Linda Ronstadt 091 75311 (SHE'S A) VERY LOVELY WOMAN 3021
28 July 1970 [no 18713] prob.Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, 3614 Jackson Hwy, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, AL Linda Ronstadt 092 75312 DOWN SO LOW unissued
July 1970 [no 18683] American Sound Studio, 827 Thomas St., Memphis, TN Linda Ronstadt (No details available)
1 August 1970 [no 19760] Muscle Shoals Sound Studio, 3614 Jackson Hwy, Muscle Shoals, Sheffield, AL Linda Ronstadt [purchased masters] 093 77746 JUDGMENT DAY unissued 094 77747 unknown title – probably rejected 095 77748 MOTHER EARTH unissued 096 77749 LOVE HAS NO PRIDE unissued 097 77750 SAD SITUATION unissued 098 77751 SO YOU CAN CLOSE YOUR EYES unissued
Ah if only there were such details for every studio recording of Linda's!
We need all those unreleased for our own! Those last songs intrigue me, and the earlier recordings of those released some years later on her albums, a goldmine more!
Aug 18, 2021 0:00:51 GMT -5 sliderocker said: heartbreaker Avatar Aug 17, 2021 5:33:59 GMT -5 @heartbreaker said: Ah if only there were such details for every studio recording of Linda's!
We need all those unreleased for our own! Those last songs intrigue me, and the earlier recordings of those released some years later on her albums, a goldmine more!
Such would require the cooperation of all the labels Linda recorded for and assuming they would be open to letting you review and copy all of the session notes. I don't see why it couldn't be done.
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Post by the Scribe on Jan 16, 2023 9:01:48 GMT
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